WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.420 Back to the games day, which oddly enough lasts two days. 00:03.940 --> 00:07.100 So everyone put in obviously an all-nighter playing games, 00:07.260 --> 00:09.780 and now we are here for the second day. 00:10.880 --> 00:15.900 And it's really good to, you know, look back 10 years. 00:16.340 --> 00:18.520 I personally started 12 years ago. 00:19.700 --> 00:23.720 All the development that has happened since then are just incredible. 00:24.400 --> 00:26.920 And all the research that we've done, 00:26.920 --> 00:29.220 the projects that students have developed, 00:29.220 --> 00:36.360 and we just thought it would be very nice to start off today with a recap of those 10 years. 00:36.360 --> 00:43.780 And the recap will be given by my two dear colleagues, Martin and Jens, 00:43.940 --> 00:52.020 and they're going to present now in a moment 10 years and a retrospective of that time. 00:52.720 --> 00:57.520 So have fun, and we'll see you guys in a moment again. 00:59.220 --> 01:03.960 Okay, thank you. 01:04.840 --> 01:08.840 So, 10 years Institute for Games. 01:10.840 --> 01:16.400 First, we want to tell you something about the history 01:16.400 --> 01:19.800 about game development at HDM. 01:20.540 --> 01:23.660 And then afterwards, we want to tell you 01:23.660 --> 01:26.840 what the Institute is now, what we are doing, 01:26.840 --> 01:28.920 and things like that. 01:29.220 --> 01:46.680 So the first students game production took place already lots of years ago, 1997. 01:46.680 --> 01:53.800 It was a game Rado said and was developed by a students group. 01:53.800 --> 01:57.720 One of these students was Simon Wiest. 01:57.720 --> 02:04.400 Some of you might know him, he's a colleague in audiovisual media right now. 02:04.400 --> 02:07.540 So it's a spaceship puzzle game. 02:07.540 --> 02:17.100 The doorway, Rado said, is stranded on an unknown planet with his defective spaceship 02:17.100 --> 02:24.700 and the player must help, Rado said, to get his space transporter back on the road and 02:24.700 --> 02:29.840 And he has an on-board computer, a friendly computer with the name Corona. 02:29.840 --> 02:35.700 I think today Corona has a different meaning than at that time. 02:35.700 --> 02:43.280 So it was already the same spelling then today, Corona. 02:43.280 --> 02:52.260 Then some years later in the year 2006, we had our first games day. 02:52.260 --> 02:57.500 Many of you might know the colleague Walter Griha. 02:57.500 --> 03:06.020 I think as far as I know he introduced these special days to different topics and he also 03:06.020 --> 03:08.220 started a games day. 03:08.220 --> 03:15.160 If you look at the guy standing to the very right of the image, it was Andreas Stiegler. 03:15.160 --> 03:18.200 He was a speaker yesterday. 03:18.200 --> 03:20.440 already was on that games day. 03:23.700 --> 03:28.480 Since that, we always have some small games days 03:28.480 --> 03:33.740 and sometimes also some of the huge ones like today. 03:34.800 --> 03:37.740 So the huge ones started when we had the institute. 03:37.740 --> 03:40.520 At that point, the institute still didn't exist. 03:42.780 --> 03:46.380 Then the next landmark we want to mention 03:46.380 --> 03:49.560 is the year 2007. 03:50.760 --> 03:53.800 In this year, the first interdisciplinary students 03:53.800 --> 03:55.760 game production started. 03:56.960 --> 04:01.120 It was a game, it's a 3D adventure 04:01.120 --> 04:04.020 in a typical point-and-click style 04:04.020 --> 04:06.480 with a really extensive story. 04:07.880 --> 04:09.980 So the city of Noah, 04:10.680 --> 04:15.200 so the earth is flooded and there's a huge dam 04:15.200 --> 04:17.220 and there's a city in between 04:17.220 --> 04:20.480 and the player is a member of this dam police 04:20.480 --> 04:22.860 and you need to protect the city 04:22.860 --> 04:26.060 and at some point you realize 04:26.060 --> 04:28.980 that there are things going on 04:28.980 --> 04:33.240 which are not what you expected. 04:34.700 --> 04:36.540 So this production 04:36.540 --> 04:40.360 was over two semesters. 04:41.200 --> 04:42.360 In the first semester 04:42.360 --> 04:44.220 40 students. 04:44.220 --> 04:46.960 in the next semester 30 students. 04:47.960 --> 04:52.140 Two students started that project. 04:53.020 --> 04:57.160 They got together the team from different study programs 04:57.160 --> 04:59.940 and they also managed the production. 04:59.940 --> 05:05.240 The two students were Stefan Radicke and Thomas Fuchsman. 05:05.780 --> 05:09.680 So Stefan Radicke is one of our colleagues right now. 05:09.680 --> 05:24.680 Then, in the year 2011, we got the first position for a professorship in the topic of games. 05:24.680 --> 05:38.680 2012, the first games professor was hired, and 2016 the position was tenured. 05:38.680 --> 05:51.680 What you can see here is the job description. 05:51.680 --> 05:59.680 A funny thing, the first time we called this position gaming. 05:59.680 --> 06:05.680 And then when the position was changed, we realized that probably the guy shouldn't teach 06:05.680 --> 06:08.900 how to play games, but rather to develop games. 06:09.260 --> 06:10.400 We changed the name then. 06:12.440 --> 06:15.940 And the professor was Stefan Radicke. 06:17.480 --> 06:19.440 Sabia was not much later. 06:22.180 --> 06:24.220 Then, 10 years ago, 06:24.820 --> 06:28.720 2030, the Institute for Games was founded. 06:29.400 --> 06:32.460 Here you can see the other people who were 06:32.460 --> 06:35.820 doing the jobs there. 06:37.020 --> 06:40.060 One of the colleagues, 06:40.640 --> 06:43.620 the one in the middle is sitting here, Uwe Schulz. 06:43.620 --> 06:47.020 I guess lots of you already also know him. 06:47.960 --> 06:51.000 He is retired, but today he is 06:51.000 --> 06:55.560 again here. I think he was a very important 06:55.560 --> 06:58.060 person in the institute. 06:58.060 --> 07:09.940 At that time, yeah, or before that, we had a discussion if we should have a study program game development. 07:11.400 --> 07:17.120 Then Joachim Schatzinski was the first one who said, 07:17.880 --> 07:26.120 we have all the knowledge already in the HDM, but it's distributed in different faculties, 07:26.120 --> 07:29.500 different study programs, let's bring together the people. 07:30.320 --> 07:33.780 And then the rector said, okay, then let's found an institute. 07:34.680 --> 07:37.340 So that was the beginning of the story. 07:37.860 --> 07:41.820 We still do not have a study program, game development. 07:42.460 --> 07:46.520 We still work together in the institute with different study programs 07:46.520 --> 07:49.480 and run the topic together. 07:49.480 --> 07:53.480 And if students want to learn something about game development, 07:53.480 --> 08:00.480 development, they need to think about what should be my position within that huge topic 08:01.160 --> 08:08.160 and select the respective study program. 08:08.380 --> 08:15.380 Then 2014 there was the first game zone at the International Festival of Animated Film 08:16.260 --> 08:23.260 in Stuttgart, which was curated by us. By us means by Sabia. So she is the director 08:23.480 --> 08:28.480 We curated it several years and there were also always lots of 08:28.480 --> 08:33.480 HDM productions on the Game Zone. 08:33.480 --> 08:38.480 It was always a huge and successful event. 08:38.480 --> 08:43.480 2015, 08:43.480 --> 08:48.480 we established a publishing label, Lab 148. 08:48.480 --> 08:53.480 So room number 148 is the games lab. 08:53.480 --> 09:03.480 We established this label such that students could use it to publish their games. 09:03.480 --> 09:08.480 And also in this year, two students' games have been published. 09:08.480 --> 09:14.480 So one of the images we lost, I just realized it. 09:14.480 --> 09:20.220 So there were two games published, Schacht and Elena, and one image disappeared. 09:21.500 --> 09:24.520 But I think it doesn't change a lot. 09:26.440 --> 09:38.440 Okay, 2016, we started the first third-party funded game research project at HDM. 09:39.280 --> 09:43.520 So 2013, the institute was founded. 09:43.520 --> 09:50.840 We had some research projects before, but not really with a game topic. 09:51.960 --> 10:01.380 But this was the first one we applied for really with the institute and had a game topic. 10:02.040 --> 10:07.480 So it was a serious game about security training for bank employees. 10:07.480 --> 10:15.580 It was founded or financed by the UBS, United Bank of Switzerland. 10:19.040 --> 10:25.160 Then, yeah, 2016, Games Lab opened. 10:27.180 --> 10:31.220 Sorry, I want to mention again. 10:31.220 --> 10:40.160 2015 we already had the label 148 so we already knew that this will be our games 10:40.160 --> 10:49.640 lab and one year later it opened so we have quite some games hardware there very 10:49.640 --> 10:56.540 a variety of devices we have virtual reality lab there and students of the 10:56.540 --> 11:03.980 different study programs are sitting together there very often in interdisciplinary teams 11:05.580 --> 11:07.660 where they develop their games. 11:11.420 --> 11:20.780 And the next landmark we celebrate 10 years of Institute for Games and now we are here and I want 11:20.780 --> 11:25.120 I want to hand over to Martin at this point. 11:25.120 --> 11:26.220 Thank you, Jens. 11:26.220 --> 11:30.920 Which brings us to today and who we are today. 11:30.920 --> 11:34.740 Jens already said that we started as accounting number 11:34.740 --> 11:38.080 plus website and this was the founding core of the institute 11:38.080 --> 11:40.280 but it was of course about the people. 11:40.280 --> 11:42.020 And we've grown a bit since the very first photo 11:42.020 --> 11:44.180 that you saw, that you've seen. 11:44.180 --> 11:46.980 And we've put together the expertise that makes up games. 11:46.980 --> 11:49.780 In my mind, games are made of three components. 11:49.780 --> 11:55.020 game design that tells you what the game is about, what you can do there, and Sabia is 11:55.020 --> 11:59.060 our expert on that from the user experience perspective. 11:59.060 --> 12:04.080 It has game art, something sensuous that you can observe with your eyes that you can feel, 12:04.080 --> 12:07.380 and Don over here is our expert on that. 12:07.380 --> 12:12.780 And all that wouldn't work without the technology beneath it, and that's us in the left corner 12:12.780 --> 12:13.780 here. 12:13.780 --> 12:19.640 There's more than this handful of professors though, so the institute works and runs because 12:19.640 --> 12:25.220 we have friends, associated faculty that support us on a per case basis, two of which I see 12:25.220 --> 12:31.880 right here, Mathis and Uwe, and also our staff that is mostly people working on third party 12:31.880 --> 12:38.180 research projects these days, but also on technical infrastructure. 12:38.180 --> 12:42.540 As Jens already said, we don't have a game studies program here at the AHDM. 12:42.540 --> 12:47.700 And I think that's a good idea not to do that and it falls well into our philosophy. 12:47.700 --> 12:52.160 Games are products that are made by a very diverse set of people with very different 12:52.160 --> 12:57.240 skills and these skills can be trained in different study programs and students from 12:57.240 --> 13:02.300 the study programs conversely can make games their topic and then bring their individual 13:02.300 --> 13:07.460 strengths that they've learned there to the entire game. 13:07.460 --> 13:14.460 We map this to education on several levels starting with bachelor's levels from audio-visual 13:14.460 --> 13:22.800 media engineering that focuses on how to integrate art and media content into a 13:22.800 --> 13:28.080 game over media informatic which is computer science of media maybe in 13:28.080 --> 13:35.580 bachelor on a bit of levels to that has a very strong computer science core over 13:35.580 --> 13:41.920 mobile a median that focuses on the the on the actual realization of these 13:41.920 --> 13:46.680 products also from a design perspective and mobile devices and after the 13:46.680 --> 13:50.860 bachelor's levels our students can concentrate on certain aspects on a 13:50.860 --> 13:55.100 master's level too which has a large external intake from people who come 13:55.100 --> 13:59.040 from other programs from abroad or from other schools in Germany for instance 13:59.040 --> 14:03.400 focusing on computer science and the project and the intricacies of software 14:03.400 --> 14:07.720 development in the computer science and media master or focusing on the digital 14:07.720 --> 14:13.360 design which is a new program that Sabia had fund just in this semester right so 14:13.360 --> 14:19.620 it's very fresh or the visual media creation and technology which is the 14:19.620 --> 14:24.460 successor of our previous or the visual media master program and also is new in 14:24.460 --> 14:30.340 the semester as an update of what we did before and then at the final top of this 14:30.340 --> 14:35.340 what used to be a pyramid before we had more masters is the ability to pursue a 14:35.340 --> 14:42.120 a PhD in games topics. Now the HDM is not a PhD granting institution per se so we 14:42.120 --> 14:47.460 work together with other schools on the national level like the University of 14:47.460 --> 14:50.960 Stuttgart which is right next door on the same campus but also with 14:50.960 --> 14:55.680 international partners for instance the Glasgow School of Arts and this is 14:55.680 --> 14:58.840 something that we are very happy to do because it not only gives us an 14:58.840 --> 15:02.520 international network of experts that we can work with but also opportunities for 15:02.520 --> 15:08.220 students to qualify further beyond the master's level. And this international 15:08.220 --> 15:12.900 context also shows in the undergraduate level. We have minor programs such as 15:12.900 --> 15:17.780 games development and app design development that brings students, young 15:17.780 --> 15:24.120 people from abroad to us and gives them opportunities to learn with our students 15:24.120 --> 15:31.500 and with us here in Stuttgart. Of course we have introductionary courses where 15:31.500 --> 15:35.500 people can learn the basics of game design, game art and game development. 15:35.500 --> 15:41.880 But I think the core component of the entire education is practical work that happens in 15:41.880 --> 15:46.920 projects that are often interdisciplinary between the different programs where student 15:46.920 --> 15:47.920 teams build games. 15:47.920 --> 15:53.760 And this is a snapshot of not all but most of the games that have been made in the last 15:53.760 --> 16:01.460 years and every single small picture stands for a student game that was produced here. 16:01.460 --> 16:06.640 If you want to browse this in more detail, go to our homepage, hdm-stuttgart.de slash 16:06.640 --> 16:11.380 ifg Institute for Games, and then click on Games and you can scroll through. 16:11.380 --> 16:16.780 And for some of these you find videos, and others you can play directly in the browser. 16:16.780 --> 16:18.900 A few of these projects stand out. 16:18.900 --> 16:23.360 I promised Hauke yesterday if he shows up this morning, there will be two slides of 16:23.360 --> 16:26.840 the game Eleanor, which he was one of the contributors to. 16:26.840 --> 16:29.400 And the reason is that Eleanor won a prize. 16:29.400 --> 16:33.940 won the Blue-White Newcomer Award, second place for Elena, 16:33.940 --> 16:36.440 in the Deutsche Computerspiele-Prize competition. 16:36.440 --> 16:39.660 Deutsche Computerspiele-Prize is the most important national 16:39.660 --> 16:41.540 prize for digital games. 16:41.540 --> 16:43.720 And I think this is quite an achievement 16:43.720 --> 16:46.700 to do that with a student game. 16:46.700 --> 16:50.240 The game Sonomity is also a very successful game 16:50.240 --> 16:52.360 that did not win a prize, but was nominated twice 16:52.360 --> 16:55.200 in successive years, once as the best concept 16:55.200 --> 16:57.780 and once as the best prototype. 16:57.780 --> 17:00.060 And some of these projects come from teams 17:00.060 --> 17:03.780 who burn for the topic of games so much that they actually 17:03.780 --> 17:05.500 found companies. 17:05.500 --> 17:09.900 There's been like Hanging Gardens Interactive, 17:09.900 --> 17:12.880 which was the team behind Sonority. 17:12.880 --> 17:16.260 Demigod Dynamics, which was just recently supported 17:16.260 --> 17:19.100 by the MFG developer booth in 2022. 17:19.100 --> 17:21.460 And Lab132 DMBH. 17:21.460 --> 17:24.320 And Lab132 had a speaker yesterday, Marvin Pohl, 17:24.320 --> 17:27.220 who gave us the talk about pragmatic game development. 17:27.220 --> 17:33.720 So they are very active and we are proud to have them as spin-offs. 17:33.720 --> 17:40.060 Another project stand out because they are games that come with certain benefits. 17:40.060 --> 17:42.220 So games must be fun. 17:42.220 --> 17:47.220 In some way they must be entertaining because we play games not because we are paid to do that, 17:47.220 --> 17:52.220 with the exception of some tenured professors that get this joy of getting paid to do something with games, 17:52.220 --> 17:54.580 but because we choose to do that. 17:54.580 --> 17:58.580 And entertainment is good and relaxing and wonderful, 17:58.580 --> 18:01.580 but sometimes games have benefits on top of that. 18:01.580 --> 18:06.580 For instance, serious games that try to build a game 18:06.840 --> 18:09.780 that not only serves the purpose of entertainment, 18:09.780 --> 18:12.660 but also say, teaches or trains 18:12.660 --> 18:15.400 or raises awareness for topics. 18:15.400 --> 18:17.360 This can happen on a large level 18:17.360 --> 18:19.440 when you build an entire game for that. 18:19.440 --> 18:20.700 It can happen on a smaller level 18:20.700 --> 18:22.680 where you have gamification elements, 18:22.680 --> 18:25.240 where you take the best ideas of game production 18:25.240 --> 18:28.340 and games as a medium and put them into a, say, 18:28.340 --> 18:31.840 application context to make the app more immersive, 18:31.840 --> 18:36.180 more engaging, and more successful. 18:36.180 --> 18:39.240 And there's a particular type of CS game that's an exergame 18:39.240 --> 18:43.140 where you try to integrate the entire body movement 18:43.140 --> 18:45.840 as a controller scheme into the game. 18:45.840 --> 18:47.420 And when that happens, you can use the game 18:47.420 --> 18:49.540 to use it actually for training. 18:49.540 --> 18:51.840 And there have been student projects that did that. 18:51.840 --> 19:01.840 For instance, Sugar Vamp, which is a gamification of an app that helps children that suffer from diabetes to manage their daily lives. 19:02.740 --> 19:05.360 And perhaps there's a story about a small vampire. 19:06.500 --> 19:15.260 There's been a game called Immunity, which is a serious game, which teaches the concepts of human immune system reactions and how the immune system works. 19:15.260 --> 19:20.300 and that was an interesting timing because in the wintertime 1920 that was 19:20.300 --> 19:25.280 right before corona hit us and maybe was a bit prescient I don't know how you got 19:25.280 --> 19:27.820 the idea 19:40.260 --> 19:44.340 that's much because it was part of the project games and underage to saw games 19:44.340 --> 19:51.600 in school education. There has been a master thesis by Celina, who I have not seen this 19:51.600 --> 19:55.980 morning yet, probably because I'm not quite awake yet, but she's around with us, she's 19:55.980 --> 20:02.400 doing her PhD with Sabir, and in her master thesis she looked at how to build a VR fitness 20:02.400 --> 20:08.640 training experience where you can use the, I don't know, can you see that here? Where 20:08.640 --> 20:14.540 You can sit down on an exercise bike, as you could do in any kind of gym or training thing, 20:14.540 --> 20:19.980 but you actually can travel through a virtual world and get the incentive of seeing things, 20:19.980 --> 20:23.820 of being somewhere else while doing your training, which is something that makes the training 20:23.820 --> 20:26.880 more effective and more motivating. 20:26.880 --> 20:33.820 And this topic of games with benefits, applying games for another thing that is also very 20:33.820 --> 20:38.800 important, something that carries forward into our work on the research side. I'd 20:38.800 --> 20:42.820 like to show you two research projects before handing the mic back to you Jens, 20:42.820 --> 20:48.520 that take this as a topic. One is the project that we finished in December 20:48.520 --> 20:54.920 2022, which is called Rehality. The topic of the project is the rehabilitation of 20:54.920 --> 20:59.920 stroke patients. So stroke patients who survived the stroke are often hit with 20:59.920 --> 21:03.320 with impairment in the movement abilities. 21:03.320 --> 21:05.720 It gets really difficult just to stretch out your arm, 21:05.720 --> 21:08.120 to open your hand, to close your hand. 21:08.120 --> 21:11.020 And these movements must be retrained 21:11.020 --> 21:15.120 in a very long process in order to gain some mobility back. 21:15.120 --> 21:20.220 And as it turns out, the medical research found out 21:20.220 --> 21:22.420 that there are different phases 21:22.420 --> 21:25.320 where the training is differently effective 21:25.320 --> 21:27.520 that depend on your brain state. 21:27.520 --> 21:32.760 If you've watched closely, you'll find out that this person is not a stroke patient. 21:32.760 --> 21:34.320 That's the funding director of ours. 21:34.320 --> 21:34.960 He's right there. 21:35.520 --> 21:39.760 And he's not happy because the system works so well even though that might contribute. 21:40.760 --> 21:43.900 But here you can see him try out the brain interface component. 21:44.500 --> 21:49.380 And what we did in this project together with our partners from the Institute 21:49.380 --> 21:54.420 for Clinical Brain Research of the Tübingen University and a company that specializes 21:54.420 --> 21:59.520 and medical devices is we built a virtual reality experience 21:59.520 --> 22:04.560 around this entire brain interface analysis thing 22:04.560 --> 22:09.220 that patients who can train with the VR system do not need 22:09.220 --> 22:11.920 to watch a screen that says open your hand in two seconds, 22:11.920 --> 22:14.680 one second now, which is not really motivating 22:14.680 --> 22:16.520 after the first few days I guess. 22:16.520 --> 22:19.280 But they spend some time in the virtual world 22:19.280 --> 22:22.020 where they can grow a garden say. 22:22.020 --> 22:27.460 And in this growing a garden, there are game elements, like watering the plants in there. 22:27.460 --> 22:32.580 And these mechanisms are triggered by the game logic at moments where the brain interface tells us 22:32.580 --> 22:35.560 that this is a good idea to do so now to foster the training. 22:35.560 --> 22:37.980 And the medical research on that is still progressing. 22:37.980 --> 22:42.560 We're hoping for a publication at some point, but the trials are not complete. 22:42.560 --> 22:44.960 That's still ongoing. 22:44.960 --> 22:49.020 A more current project started in October 2022 and is still ongoing. 22:49.020 --> 22:50.820 We're about halfway through. 22:50.820 --> 22:56.680 And that topic is a gamification for pelvic floor muscle training. 22:57.500 --> 22:59.820 I wonder what that specific thing is and why you would need that. 22:59.820 --> 23:12.400 Well, there are medical conditions like incontinence that are also very straining for people who suffer from them. 23:13.200 --> 23:18.280 And some of that can be alleviated with muscle training of the pelvic floor muscles. 23:18.280 --> 23:28.280 There are already competing approaches out there, even products where you can measure this muscle contraction and then get training information on that. 23:28.280 --> 23:35.280 And you can do, even gamified experiences are on the market that do that. 23:35.280 --> 23:42.280 But the problem is in order to measure these muscle contractions and map that into say an input in a game, you need to wear a complicated device. 23:42.280 --> 23:46.740 had a device and the partners of our physio game we have a startup that 23:46.740 --> 23:52.420 specializes in the thing has developed a sensor that you can wear outside your 23:52.420 --> 23:57.220 body that can measure these contractions and now we're working on mobile game 23:57.220 --> 24:02.320 experiences where you can on the go play a game but use this muscle contractions 24:02.320 --> 24:06.340 to control an important aspect of the game and that way we are hoping to 24:06.340 --> 24:10.960 establish a training regime that improves on this muscle structure with 24:10.960 --> 24:13.960 with the long-term goal of having also a medical effect, 24:13.960 --> 24:16.560 and at the same time can be played like a mobile game 24:16.560 --> 24:20.960 with the same engaging elements that games bring. 24:20.960 --> 24:23.460 And that's just two of our projects. 24:23.460 --> 24:24.960 And for the rest of our projects, 24:24.960 --> 24:26.960 I hand over to Jens again. 24:31.760 --> 24:33.460 Okay. 24:33.460 --> 24:36.760 Some other projects, just in short. 24:36.760 --> 24:40.260 So we have ongoing research 24:40.260 --> 24:45.900 together with the Hector Research Institute of Education Sciences and Psychology in Tübingen. 24:45.900 --> 24:54.340 So we have a virtual classroom where we can do empirical studies with students. 24:54.340 --> 25:00.100 Yeah, maybe that's enough. 25:00.100 --> 25:03.780 Let's do it short because time is passing by. 25:03.780 --> 25:10.780 We also have some research projects together with museums. 25:10.780 --> 25:18.780 One, Artification, was done by Sabia, and Nature World also by Sabia. 25:18.780 --> 25:24.780 Research projects in cooperation with the State Gallery and the National History Museum. 25:24.780 --> 25:33.280 And digital games and applications were produced to expand museum experiences. 25:33.280 --> 25:37.780 The target groups are children, teenagers, young adults. 25:37.780 --> 25:45.280 And they should learn and have a positive museum experience 25:45.280 --> 25:52.280 and the games should promote their enthusiasm for art, natural history, things like this. 25:52.280 --> 26:03.240 Is it correct? Okay. And then another project also done by Sabia called Kuhmus. 26:03.740 --> 26:12.120 So therefore I have to left the German wording here, Kunst, Musik and Sport. So art, music and sport. 26:12.120 --> 26:27.120 The intention is to establish professional networks to promote adaptive action related digital innovations in teacher training in these topics, art, museum and sports. 26:27.120 --> 26:33.960 spots and we didn't write down the partners here because there are so many 26:33.960 --> 26:39.540 what you can see here are the logos of all the partners so it's really a huge 26:39.540 --> 26:48.080 project which just started you want to say more or is it fine like this okay 26:48.080 --> 26:59.140 Then also an ongoing project done by Celina in cooperation with, supervised by Sabia, 26:59.140 --> 27:05.200 mixed reality exergames for fall prevention. So elderly people, they tend 27:05.200 --> 27:12.220 to fall down and have serious insurances and if you drain some muscles you can 27:12.220 --> 27:19.540 prevent from falling and so the idea is to give the people a meaningful 27:19.540 --> 27:32.160 experience which increases quality of life with the training. We have some 27:32.160 --> 27:41.800 ongoing PhD projects. So one is about cultural communication with games, one is 27:41.800 --> 27:45.800 One is about autonomous reaction of social robots 27:45.800 --> 27:48.800 through the detection of behavioral markers. 27:48.800 --> 27:52.800 And one is about combining the perspectives of game design 27:52.800 --> 27:57.800 and user experience design with those from movement sciences. 27:57.800 --> 28:01.800 The first one, Amadeo Vicaro, 28:01.800 --> 28:05.800 he has his office in Tübingen at the university. 28:05.800 --> 28:10.800 Milo Olbrecht, I get you all saw him running around quite a lot here, 28:10.800 --> 28:13.800 organizing these days. 28:13.800 --> 28:18.800 And yeah, Selina Reds also is here quite a lot 28:19.580 --> 28:22.340 and also involved in organizing 28:22.340 --> 28:24.600 and helping with the game, game stay. 28:26.140 --> 28:30.160 Okay, so thanks for listening 28:30.160 --> 28:34.180 and we are open for questions. 28:34.180 --> 28:36.060 Not too many, but maybe. 28:37.880 --> 28:39.100 Maybe half a question. 28:39.100 --> 28:39.940 Yeah. 28:40.800 --> 28:44.800 Excellent, so are there any questions? 28:44.800 --> 28:48.800 Who would like to ask a question? 28:48.800 --> 28:52.800 No, no one? 28:52.800 --> 28:56.800 Then I might ask one. 28:56.800 --> 29:00.800 That is Martin. That's me. That's you. 29:00.800 --> 29:04.800 What was your favorite student project since you've joined us? 29:04.800 --> 29:08.800 I can see some of my students right here, so I'm not telling. 29:08.800 --> 29:10.800 Sorry. 29:10.800 --> 29:12.800 Yeah, if you want to know that, 29:12.800 --> 29:14.800 you need to give me much more alcohol. 29:14.800 --> 29:19.800 No, actually, there are some impressive projects. 29:19.800 --> 29:21.800 I'm not going to name names. 29:21.800 --> 29:23.800 I think what makes projects impressive 29:23.800 --> 29:25.800 is if students pour themselves into it. 29:25.800 --> 29:28.800 We have so many students that bring their passion for games 29:28.800 --> 29:31.800 into the project, and I think that shows in every project, 29:31.800 --> 29:33.800 small and large. 29:33.800 --> 29:36.800 What a diplomatic answer. Thank you so much. 29:36.800 --> 29:43.800 Alright, so thank you very much guys. 29:43.800 --> 29:51.060 It was lovely to have this time journey, you know, back to the future thingy-me-jig that 29:51.060 --> 29:52.060 you did. 29:52.060 --> 29:53.640 Thank you so much. 29:53.640 --> 29:59.780 And we move on now to our next group of speakers. 29:59.780 --> 30:05.800 In fact, now comes my favorite part, because now we have two talks from alumni from our 30:05.800 --> 30:17.940 university. We're starting with Katrin Radke and Kazimir Plus who now run the 30:17.940 --> 30:24.880 games company called Spellgarden Games and they're gonna give us a talk 30:24.880 --> 30:31.920 about running a sticky business. I can't wait for that. Actually those two 30:31.920 --> 30:36.780 are the ones who got the prize that was mentioned right they are the the main 30:36.780 --> 30:46.380 people behind Elena and they are also alumni as I said Katrin studied mobile 30:46.380 --> 30:53.600 media and Kazimir studied media informatics and they both finished with 30:53.600 --> 31:01.020 a big ban in 2016 with their bachelor thesis and I'm personally quite excited 31:01.020 --> 31:08.020 to see what happens. I mean, I've met you guys at several game zones and other talks 31:08.340 --> 31:13.020 where we hosted, where we've been on the same panel. So, so great to see you guys and I 31:13.020 --> 31:17.740 can't wait to see your latest developments. So welcome, Katrin and Kazimir.